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Detention officer vacancies rise at Forsyth Co. jail; conditions becoming 'inhumane', inmates say

'The pain. The agony. The sadness. The depression. The anxiety. The emotions — they're running high.'

Detention officer vacancies rise at Forsyth Co. jail; conditions becoming 'inhumane', inmates say

'The pain. The agony. The sadness. The depression. The anxiety. The emotions — they're running high.'

INMATES SAY THEY ARE ANGRY AND SCARED NOW THAT DETENTN OFFICER SHORTAGES THEY SAY, ARE IMPACTING THEM. AT THE FORSYTH COUNTY JAIL, THE RISE IN VACANCIES HAPPENING AFTER MANDATORY SCHEDULE CHANGES WERE ANNOUNCED. WE HAVE A STORY THAT WE’VE BEEN FOLLOWING SINCE OCTOBER HERE. AS OF LAST WEEK, THE JAIL HAD 94 DETENTION OFFICER POSITIONS ON STAFFED WITH ONE PENDING RESIGNATION. DAVONTE MCKENITH JOINS US NOW WITH AN UPDATE. AND YOU SPOKE WITH SOME INMATES AT THE JAIL. WE DID SPEAK TO SEVERAL INMATES AT THE FORSYTH COUNTY JAIL IN ORDER TO GET A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE OF THE ISSUES FROM THE INSIDE. INMATES SAY SOMETIMES THEY’RE BEING LOCKED IN THEIR CELLS FOR MORE THAN 20 HOURS A DAY, AND THAT’S BECAUSE IT’S HARD TO KEEP DETENTION OFFICERS ON THE PAYROLL ALONE. THIS IS A GROUP HOME FROM AN INMATE AT FOR FIVE COUNTY JAIL. CAN I ACCEPT THIS TASK? PRESS THREE. NOW THAT NUMBER THREE LED US TO A PHONE CALL WITH 25 YEAR OLD KIRSTEN KLEINER. JAIL RECORDS SHOW SHE WAS CUFFED IN OCTOBER ON FELONY DRUG TRAFFICKING AND POSSESSION CHARGES. SHE SAYS INMATES HAVE BEEN TOLD THE JAIL IS SEVERELY SHORT STAFFED, LEAVING INMATES LOCKED IN THEIR CELLS AT TIMES FOR 22 HOURS A DAY. THAT’S WHAT THEY TELL US. THEY TELL US THAT IS BECAUSE OF A SHORTAGE, THAT WE’RE OUR FACILITY LOCKED DOWN. I MEAN, WHEN I WALKED IN LIKE THAT MANY HOURS A DAY, IT IS AN UPPER BOUND TO HAVE A TENDENCY. KIRSTEN SAYS YES, SHE UNDERSTANDS WHY SHE’S HERE, BUT A NEARLY DAY LONG LOCKDOWN EVERY DAY IS A HARSH SENTENCE FOR AN INMATE. MENTAL HEALTH. SHERIFF BOBBY KIMBROUGH SAYS REGULATIONS REQUIRE THAT INMATES CAN ONLY GET ONE HOUR OUT EVERY THREE DAYS. HE SAYS AT THE FORSYTH COUNTY JAIL, THOUGH, THEY GET MORE THAN THAT 2 HOURS IN THE MORNING AND TWO AT NIGHT EVERY DAY. WE DON’T MAKE THE LAW. WE JUST DO WHAT THE REGULATIONS SAY. SO THEY EXCEED WHAT THE REGULATIONS SAY THEY ALLOW BY THE STATE. IF WE ARE EXCEEDING THAT, THEN WE CAN’T BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR SOMEONE’S MENTAL HEALTH. THE NUMBER OF VACANCIES HAVE ONLY KEPT RISING SINCE OUR COVERAGE OF THE JAIL STARTED LAST FALL. ON NOVEMBER 21ST, THERE WERE 79 VACANCIES. ON THE 30TH, 83. ON DECEMBER 16TH. WE CHECKED AGAIN 86 VACANCIES. THE MOST RECENT COUNT AS OF JANUARY 27TH, 94 VACANCIES AT THE FORSYTH COUNTY JAIL. KIRSTEN IS CONCERNED ABOUT CONDITIONS WILL BE LIKE IF MORE OFFICERS KEEP LEAVING BECAUSE OF BECAUSE WE’RE HAVING TO LIVE UNDER IS ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE. IT’S INHUMANE. IT’S JUST NOT RIGHT. THAT SAME SENTIMENT OF THINGS NOT BEING RIGHT IS WHAT WORRIES KIRSTEN’S PARENTS. THEY SAW THE MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES FIRSTHAND DURING A RECENT VISIT TO THE JAIL. THERE IS A CENTRAL DESK AND THERE WAS ONE OFFICER THERE. LIGHTS WERE DOWN AND I ASKED HER, I SAID, WHAT’S GOING ON? SHE SAID, MAMA, WE’RE ON LOCKDOWN. I DIDN’T UNDERSTAND WHY. AND SHE SAID, WELL, IF THE BOYS MISBEHAVE, THEY LOCK US ALL DOWN. IF THERE’S A SHORTAGE OF PEOPLE, THEY LOCK US ALL DOWN, LOCKED DOWN AND LOCKED UP. THEY SAY SIMPLE THINGS LIKE THEIR DAUGHTER GETTING NECESSITIES AND BASIC MEDICAL CARE HAVE TAKEN TIME. IT TOOK A WEEKS FOR JAIL STAFF JUST TO GET EYEGLASSES TO KIRSTEN, AND SHE’S LEGALLY BLIND. MONTHS FOR DOCTORS TO ADDRESS A BROKEN TOOTH. I’M SORRY. IT FELL THROUGH THE CRACKS. AND I’VE HEARD THAT TWICE IN THREE WEEKS THAT SOMETHING HAS FALLEN THROUGH THE CRACKS. THE REASON WHY THEY SAY NO STAFF AND YOU START WORKING PEOPLE SHIFT WORK 12 ON 12 OF THEY’RE GOING TO GET BURNOUT. AND THEN WHERE DO YOU PULL PEOPLE FROM? SO SHORTAGES ARE JUST IMPACTING DEFINITELY ON INMATES BECAUSE INMATES ARE SMART. I MEAN, THEY SEE WHAT’S GOING ON. THESE STAFFING ISSUES, IT’S JUST GOING TO GET WORSE. YEAH. FOR INMATES, IT FEELS LIKE IT’S ALREADY GETTING WORSE. KIRSTEN SAYS THE TIME THEY ARE ALLOWED OUT IS LIMITED. THERE’S A CHANCE TO SHOWER, MAKE A PHONE CALL OR TAKE A WALK. BUT NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR ALL THREE. I’M GOING TO BED WITH THESE WOMEN AND I’M DOING WHAT THEY’RE GOING THROUGH. I FEEL WHAT THEY’RE GOING THROUGH. THE PAIN, THE AGONY, THE STANDARDS, THE OPPRESSION AND THE DIETY. THE EMOTIONS ARE JUST RUNNING HIGH. CUSTODY AND CARE FOR INMATES IS PARAMOUNT. YOU KNOW, IF YOU’RE GOING TO PUT THEM THERE, THEN YOU’RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THEM. AND SOME WOULD ARGUE CARE FOR THE INMATES IS ON ROCKY GROUND RIGHT NOW AT THE JAIL. AND IT BOILS DOWN TO THE GROWING NUMBER OF SHORTAGE IS SHERIFF KIMBROUGH SAYS THAT’S SIMPLY NOT THE CASE. SO DO YOU THINK THE SHORTAGES ARE IMPACTING THE CARE FOR THOSE INMATES IN ANY TYPE OF WAY? NO, NO, I DON’T. FORSYTH COUNTY COMMISSIONERS DESCRIBE THE STAFFING ISSUES AT THE JAIL AS A CRISIS. AFTER OUR FIRST REPORT BACK IN NOVEMBER, A CONSULTANT WAS BROUGHT IN TO SURVEY JAIL STAFF ABOUT THE MORALE AND LEADERSHIP CONCERNS. WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR THE RESULTS OF THAT SURVEY AND WE’LL KEEP YOU UPDATED ON WHAT THAT REVEALS. FOR 12 INVESTIGATES, I’M DAVONTE MCKENITH WXII 12 NEWS DEVONTE ADDS. KIRSTEN, PARENTS TOLD US TODAY THAT THEY’RE STILL DEALING WITH HER BEING DENIED SHOWERS AND BEING IN THE CELL FOR MORE THAN 72 HOURS. THEY SAY SHE WAS IN HER CELL FOR 96 HOURS LAST WEEK. DURING OUR INTERVIEW WITH THE SHERIFF, HE THANKED US FOR OUR INVESTIGATION BECAUSE FUNDING INCREASED AFTER OUR STORIES AIRED. SHERIFF KIMBROUGH SAYS THEY RECEIVED $2.5 MILLION TO PUT TOWARD THINGS LIKE INCREASING JAIL SECURITY AND UPGRADING CAMERA SYSTEM. THIS INVESTIGATION GOES BACK MONTHS TO FIND ALL OF OUR PREVIOUS STORIES ON THE COUNTY JAIL.
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Detention officer vacancies rise at Forsyth Co. jail; conditions becoming 'inhumane', inmates say

'The pain. The agony. The sadness. The depression. The anxiety. The emotions — they're running high.'

Inmates at the Forsyth County Detention Center (FCDC) said they are angry and scared now that detention officer shortages are impacting them at the jail.The rise in vacancies is happening after mandatory schedule changes were announced.This is a story WXII 12 News has been following since October after turmoil over staffing, morale and leadership caused former and current employees to share their concerns.As of Jan. 27, the FCDC had 94 detention officer positions unstaffed, with one pending resignation.Inmates said sometimes the shortages have caused them to be locked in their cells for more than 20 hours a day. Kirstin Clinard, 25, is an inmate in the FCDC. Jail records show she was arrested in October on felony drug trafficking and possession charges. She said inmates have been told the jail is severely short-staffed, leaving inmates locked in their cells, at times, for 22 hours a day."That's what they tell us. They tell us that it's because of a shortage that we are on a facility lockdown," said Clinard. "I mean, when you're on lockdown for that many hours a day, it's enough to drive a person insane."Clinard said , yes, she understands why she's at the FCDC, but a nearly day-long lockdown, every day, is a harsh sentence for an inmate's mental health. Forsyth County Sheriff Bobby Kimbrough said state regulations require that inmates only get one hour out every three days. Kimbrough said at the FCDC, though, they get more than that: two hours in the morning and two hours at night, every day."We don't make the law. We just do what the regulation says. So, they exceed what the regulation says is allowed by the state," said Kimbrough. "If we are exceeding that, then we can't be held accountable for someone's mental health."WATCH: 'Need every ounce of God's help': Turmoil at Forsyth Co. jail due to leadership, management issues, staff sayThe number of detention officer vacancies has only kept rising since our coverage of the jail started last fall.On Nov. 21, there were 79 vacancies.On Nov. 30, there were 83.On Dec. 16, the number increased to 86.In the most recent count, as of Jan. 27, 94 vacancies were reported at the FCDC.Clinard is concerned about what conditions will be like if more detention officers keep leaving."It's because of the conditions that we're having to live under," said Clinard. "It's absolutely terrible. It's inhumane. It's just not right." That same sentiment of things not being right is what worries Clinard's parents. They saw the mental challenges firsthand during a recent visit to the jail."There is a central desk, and there was one officer there. Lights were down," said Crystal Bailey, Clinard's parent. "I asked her, 'What's going on?' She said, 'Momma, we are on lockdown,' but I didn't understand why. She said, 'If the boys misbehave, they lock us all down. If there's a shortage of people, they lock us all down."Locked down and locked up. Crystal said simple things, like her daughter getting necessities and basic medical care, have taken time. Crystal said it took weeks for jail staff just to get eyeglasses to Clinard and months for doctors to address a broken tooth."'I'm sorry it fell through the cracks,' and I heard that twice in three weeks — that something has fallen through the cracks," said Crystal.The reason why, Clinard's parents say? No staff."You start working people 12-on and 12-off, they will get burned out. Then, where do you pull people from?" said Gary Bailey, Kirstin's parent. "Those shortages are just impacting inmates because inmates are smart, and they see what's going on. These staffing issues — it's just going to get worse."For inmates, it feels like it's already getting worse. Clinard said the time they are allowed out is limited. There's a chance to shower, make a phone call or take a walk, but not enough time for all three."I'm in here with these women and I see what they're going through. I feel what they are going through," said Clinard. "The pain. The agony. The sadness. The depression. The anxiety. The emotions — they're running high.""Custody and care for inmates is paramount. If you're going to put them there, you're going to take care of them," said Gary.Some would argue that care for inmates is on rocky ground right now at the FCDC, and it boils down to the growing number of shortages. Sheriff Kimbrough said that's simply not the case.12 Investigates asked Kimbrough if he believes shortages are impacting the care for the inmates in any type of way. Kimbrough responded: "No. No, I don't." Forsyth County commissioners describe the staffing issues at the FCDC as a crisis. A consultant was brought in to survey jail staff about the morale and leadership concerns. 12 Investigates is still waiting for the results of the survey. During the interview with Sheriff Kimbrough, he thanked 12 Investigates for previous investigations because funding increased after stories aired on WXII 12 News. Sheriff Kimbrough said they received $2.5 million to put toward concerns, including increasing jail security and upgrading camera systems. On Thursday, Gary and Crystal told 12 Investigates that they are still dealing with Clinard being denied showers and being left in her cell for more than 72 consecutive hours at a time. Her parents said she was in her cell for 96 straight hours just last week. WATCH: In 9 days, 4 detention officers leave Forsyth County jail; 2 resignations pending

Inmates at the Forsyth County Detention Center (FCDC) said they are angry and scared now that detention officer shortages are impacting them at the jail.

The rise in vacancies is happening after mandatory schedule changes were announced.

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This is a story WXII 12 News has been following since October after turmoil over staffing, morale and leadership caused former and current employees to share their concerns.

As of Jan. 27, the FCDC had 94 detention officer positions unstaffed, with one pending resignation.

Inmates said sometimes the shortages have caused them to be locked in their cells for more than 20 hours a day.

Kirstin Clinard, 25, is an inmate in the FCDC. Jail records show she was arrested in October on felony drug trafficking and possession charges. She said inmates have been told the jail is severely short-staffed, leaving inmates locked in their cells, at times, for 22 hours a day.

"That's what they tell us. They tell us that it's because of a shortage that we are on a facility lockdown," said Clinard. "I mean, when you're on lockdown for that many hours a day, it's enough to drive a person insane."

Clinard said , yes, she understands why she's at the FCDC, but a nearly day-long lockdown, every day, is a harsh sentence for an inmate's mental health.

Forsyth County Sheriff Bobby Kimbrough said state regulations require that inmates only get one hour out every three days. Kimbrough said at the FCDC, though, they get more than that: two hours in the morning and two hours at night, every day.

"We don't make the law. We just do what the regulation says. So, they exceed what the regulation says is allowed by the state," said Kimbrough. "If we are exceeding that, then we can't be held accountable for someone's mental health."

WATCH: 'Need every ounce of God's help': Turmoil at Forsyth Co. jail due to leadership, management issues, staff say

The number of detention officer vacancies has only kept rising since our coverage of the jail started last fall.

On Nov. 21, there were 79 vacancies.

On Nov. 30, there were 83.

On Dec. 16, the number increased to 86.

In the most recent count, as of Jan. 27, 94 vacancies were reported at the FCDC.

Clinard is concerned about what conditions will be like if more detention officers keep leaving.

"It's because of the conditions that we're having to live under," said Clinard. "It's absolutely terrible. It's inhumane. It's just not right."

That same sentiment of things not being right is what worries Clinard's parents. They saw the mental challenges firsthand during a recent visit to the jail.

"There is a central desk, and there was one officer there. Lights were down," said Crystal Bailey, Clinard's parent. "I asked her, 'What's going on?' She said, 'Momma, we are on lockdown,' but I didn't understand why. She said, 'If the boys misbehave, they lock us all down. If there's a shortage of people, they lock us all down."

Locked down and locked up. Crystal said simple things, like her daughter getting necessities and basic medical care, have taken time. Crystal said it took weeks for jail staff just to get eyeglasses to Clinard and months for doctors to address a broken tooth.

"'I'm sorry it fell through the cracks,' and I heard that twice in three weeks — that something has fallen through the cracks," said Crystal.

The reason why, Clinard's parents say? No staff.

"You start working people 12-on and 12-off, they will get burned out. Then, where do you pull people from?" said Gary Bailey, Kirstin's parent. "Those shortages are just impacting inmates because inmates are smart, and they see what's going on. These staffing issues — it's just going to get worse."

For inmates, it feels like it's already getting worse. Clinard said the time they are allowed out is limited. There's a chance to shower, make a phone call or take a walk, but not enough time for all three.

"I'm in here with these women and I see what they're going through. I feel what they are going through," said Clinard. "The pain. The agony. The sadness. The depression. The anxiety. The emotions — they're running high."

"Custody and care for inmates is paramount. If you're going to put them there, you're going to take care of them," said Gary.

Some would argue that care for inmates is on rocky ground right now at the FCDC, and it boils down to the growing number of shortages. Sheriff Kimbrough said that's simply not the case.

12 Investigates asked Kimbrough if he believes shortages are impacting the care for the inmates in any type of way. Kimbrough responded: "No. No, I don't."

Forsyth County commissioners describe the staffing issues at the FCDC as a crisis. A consultant was brought in to survey jail staff about the morale and leadership concerns. 12 Investigates is still waiting for the results of the survey.

During the interview with Sheriff Kimbrough, he thanked 12 Investigates for previous investigations because funding increased after stories aired on WXII 12 News. Sheriff Kimbrough said they received $2.5 million to put toward concerns, including increasing jail security and upgrading camera systems.

On Thursday, Gary and Crystal told 12 Investigates that they are still dealing with Clinard being denied showers and being left in her cell for more than 72 consecutive hours at a time. Her parents said she was in her cell for 96 straight hours just last week.

WATCH: In 9 days, 4 detention officers leave Forsyth County jail; 2 resignations pending